The Challenge

After re-reading my last post (¨the truth¨)  and sitting a few hours with my dying step-mother in the middle of the night, I felt the need to condense it and phrase it as a challenge.

The challenge (v1.0)

Nobody can say anything about the experiential universe, that will always be true, unless it is this statement in different words.

The game

OK, it´s like a little game. The rules are clear from the one statement (and maybe I´ll have to alter that statement a little in the future, but I now think it´s a good 1.0 version of the statement.
From v0.9 I added the unless, because else the statement is a paradox and would actually be proved by disproving it. That didn´t seem fair.

So what has to happen to falsify this statement is:
Someone has to say anything about experience that will be true in any context.

Now in the last post I talked about context and how truth cannot exist without one. I truly believe that.
I think replies will mosty be about abstractions (so not about the experience) and will fall into only a few categories.
  • Definitions... definitions are true by definition, but only in the context of the definition, it is basically something we agree upon
  • If statements... if you include an if or when in the statement, it is conditional, this automatically means it is NOT always true.
  • Commandments. Like don piss against the wind, thou shalt not kill etc. Those aren´t statements, they are commands. there is a difference. They might be unwritten, or generally accepted rules of conduct. They are practical, but cannot be said to hold any truth. Interestingly they are usually based on an instance of personal truth, which will not be true in circumstances where the commandment is nonsense. Like thou shalt not kill someone who´s inhumanely and permanently suffering.
  • Statements about inner life: I like blue, I believe in God. These statements cannot be falsified accept when you ask people what they exactly mean by I. I changes itself, it adapts itself constantly. It can therefore not be a basis of truth. Tricky one that, they might not believe you, but that doesn´t make it any less true or more true. And it´s not that you say the I changes, it just does. You cannot remember what you did last year on the 13th of march at 16:03. But back then you knew.
  • Timed statments. I can touch my nose. True, right now. Will you still be able to when you have left this body? 
  • Placed statements. Things fall down. Yup. True, except on the other side of the globe then they fall up. Even if you define down as to the center of a gravity-well, then in space it won´t work either.
  • Any combination of these to throw a smoke screen.
  • Dogma. Things that are true, because authority A says they are true. Easily enough to deal with, because they are not experienced (by everybody)
There maybe more, but this is what I expect.

Also the idea keeps coming to make the temple as a virtual environment. Not really a game in the traditional sense. You would have a clear goal, it would just be in real life. Which is to see that real life is also some kind of game and to save it and step out of it.

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